400 lb 65 y/o Type II Diabetic & life long food addict, Soylent effects Miraculous


It sounds so dumb I almost don’t want to write this, but all it takes for you to get back on track is to wake up one morning and decide to start over again. Of course it’s a lot harder to do than it is to write.


People don’t understand how difficult this problem is.


Thanks for the support it means a lot.


We believe in you buddy, wish you the best!


Even with the current health problems and backsliding on weight, you’re still way ahead of where you were when you started.

In fact, you’re still down by well over 50 pounds, right? in the past year and change, right?

That, by itself, would warrant a party for a lot of people!

I know it’s always disheartening to backslide; I’ve felt it myself. Anyone who tells you it isn’t a life-crushing bummer simply hasn’t been there. But it isn’t the end.

Fact is, most people who successfully lose a lot of weight have one (or more) backslides along the way. It’s almost inevitable. Like you’ve heard since the beginning - losing weight is hard, keeping it off is even harder.

Maybe your body needs a break from the downward slide… your hormonal balances and regulatory mechanisms need time to adjust to a radically different body. Among other things, your leptin levels were way down (because leptin is produced by your fat, and you had a lot less fat to produce leptin)… your brain has become accustomed to a particular level of leptin for years and years and years, and ever since you brought it down, your brain has been chemically driven to try to get you to eat more to gain fat and restore the “damaged” leptin levels.

Or maybe you psychologically needed a break from the relentless dieting… broccoli/chicken/fish, broccoli/chicken/fish, broccoli/chicken/fish, broccoli/chicken/fish, broccoli/chicken/fish… this is why we need diet breaks.

Or maybe you have a health issue that crops up that throw things off for you… I injured my back earlier this year; it prevented exercise, and I allowed myself to use it as an excuse to eat more and to eat poorly. I backslid.

Or… from the sound of it… you’ve had all three hitting you at the same time.

That’s rough.

But like I said, even with the big backslide you’ve had, you’re still way ahead compared to where you started. You’ll need to wrest back control, and you’ll need to re-set some of your goal dates (if you had set dates, that is), but you can still stop the slide and, when you’re ready, start back on a plan that keeps you moving in a positive direction.

Good luck… we’re all still pulling for you.


Hey chap, I’m sorry to hear about your recent struggles — but I’m delighted to see you posting here about them. It’s so tough sticking with food habit changes. I don’t have anywhere near the challenges you have, yet I’ve repeatedly had backsliding periods over the past two years, and felt really bad about them.

As everyone else has said, don’t forget that you started at what, 397 pounds? So even on July 21st, even after putting on 29 pounds in 2 months, you’re still down 71 pounds (or about 18% of your original body weight) since you started.

I’m sure that doesn’t make your current situation less frustrating. But hopefully it reminds you that you’ve made a lot of progress, and gained a lot of experience, getting to where you are now. Unfortunately, it gets harder as you go along; fortunately, you’re even stronger now. Your addictions might think they’ve derailed your health kick, but you’ve got 71 pounds-worth of weight-loss experience to throw at these setbacks.

Progress, not perfection. One day at a time. Keep at it guy. We’re with you.


It is most definitely “One Day At A Time” I will get back.


@mtandy, you absolutely will, keep at it! Every single person reading this forum regularly is pulling for you. Heck, if you decide to move to a healthy diet of regular food and give up Soylent altogether, I still want updates! :smile: You’re still well down the road to better health, bumpy and winding though it can be sometimes.


Thank you I appreciate it


It’s been a hellish 3 months. Overwhelming, unrelenting food thoughts. Cost me over $600/month on fast food (many times delivered) on credit cards no less (which I have to pay back) I fought every step of the way. Drinking SOYLENT was my one sane part of each day. I never gave up and right now I am SUCCEEDING. I’ve got 3 1/2 days so far on my Soylent program. “One min/hour/day at a time” One thing that seemed to finally make progress was as soon as the food thoughts begin is to mentally change the subject NOT HAVE A DEBATE ABOUT IT because I always wind up LOOSING the debate. I’m afraid to get on a scale at this point because I’m afraid of how much weight I’ve put on. Right now I’m just concerned with staying on my SOYLENT program for today. To be continued…


Keep pushing and trying to find what works for you – it’s worth it. I’ve been through struggles and it is very hard but keep on finding ways to improve.


Thanks. I am. Still struggling but not quitting.


Unfortunately the most scientific support seems to be for surgical options. I would have gone for one of those myself except when I asked they said I was too old, being 65 at the time.


You may have lucked out. My Gastroenterologist told me that she has to deal with aftermath of those procedures. I’ve always been against them also. It’s a one way ticket. In the true food addict we eat because of unrelenting, overpowering signals from the brain. So If a person has the operation the “receptacle” (stomach, intestines ,etc) are MUCH smaller yet the brain (the cause or the STIMULUS) is not dealt with so NOW what happens? Where does the body put all this food? I know people whose staples have come out, who have had to pull over when driving because of immediate diarrhea. People who now are supposed to eat many times a day but just tiny portions. If they were able to do that they wouldn’t have needed the operation in the first place. Imagine people having to ask the Boss or supervisor for an eating break every 2 hours or even more frequently. Besides most NEWS reports focus on the first few months after the operation… the “honeymoon”. The reality is you loose 2/3 of the fat in the first 18 months then depending on the patient it can start coming back on because the stomach will start to stretch talk about a living hell. So consider yourself lucky you were turned down. I hope one day Medical Research will be able to deal with the brain aspect of this. This is why I call Soylent “A gift from the gods”, It’s got everything I need in just the right proportion.


I’ve thought about getting a cabin in the middle of nowhere for a number of reasons, but one reason I find my mind wandering back to far more than it should, is that it’d take all the convenience out of fast food. Being far enough from a McDonalds that it takes hours to drive to instead of being able to walk to one in under five minutes would cut-down my habit tremendously & after a few months with just a soylent supply readily available, I think I’d stop mentally debating about it too. I think months of isolation wouldn’t work well for everyone & I’m sure I’d fall off the wagon in no time in the wrong environment, unless it’s been long enough for my taste buds to change significantly.


CBT works without having to remove the stimulus.


Or so the surgeons might tell you…


I can relate to that.


I had to look that up, because I was thinking of a completely different CBT. Either way, it’s pretty ineffective at helping with weight loss.


Just diagnosed with type 2 about 20 days ago. Immediately went back on Soylent and have already seen 18lbs melt away; most importantly, no more food comas.