Is anyone drinking Soylent 2.0 tracking their testosterone / estrogen levels?


#21

However you have a pre-2.0 measurement so if/when you get blood work done again you’ll be able to see pre-2.0 and post-2.0.


#22

Hey, I posted this a while ago but, I’ve been monitoring and managing my testosterone/estrogen with a doctor for a few years now. I started Soylent 2.0 last year and our test results started to show a drop in Estrogen (my testosterone stayed normal. I never had the other side effects like painful breasts but I did recognize the side effects of having no estrogen. I’ve since stopped Soylent and a few months out I believe my levels have normalized (actually waiting on those results to come back in a week, but the symptoms are gone). From what I guess, since there isn’t an epidemic of every guy on Soylent 2 complaining, it must only be that certain people are susceptible to the effects of that much isoflavones and from what I understand people seem to think this would not be the impact soy isoflavones would have but it’s what changed for me.

My situation has a lot of variables but I DO attribute the impact on my estrogen to Soylent, for what that’s worth. I’m not looking to get into a debate on who is smarter or knows the most about hormones/soy or whatever, just telling what changed for me.


#23

Following up. I’ve been on Soylent 2.0 for nearly a year now, and my serum testosterone was basically unchanged:

2015 (60% Soylent Powder)
939 ng/dL

2016 (70% Soylent Drink)
927 ng/dL

So, I wouldn’t worry about Soylent 2.0 affecting your testosterone. It hasn’t for me.

My Vitamin D, however, was still low: 28.2 ng/mL with the reference interval being 30.0 - 100.0.

Note that I take a 1,800 IU D3 supplement daily in addition to Soylent 2.0. I’m increasing my D3 dosage to 5,000 IU. I avoid direct sun exposure (to prevent premature aging), so I’m sure some of you get more Vitamin D from the outdoors. But, based on my experience, I would recommend supplementing Soylent with Vitamin D3.

I also stopped supplementing 5g of creatine this year, and my serem creatinine was low: 0.71 mg/dL with the reference interval being 0.76 - 1.27. In 2015 (with 5g of daily creatine), it was 1.00 mg/dL. Based on this, I will probably add creatine back into the mix. There’s some mild evidence that it improves cognition for vegetarians:

Studies related to Cognition (Vegetarians) and Creatine


#24

I take extra vitamin D as well, and avoid the sun, jogging at 5:30 a.m. or so, when I jog. I also take fish oil caps as part of my meds, by Dr’s orders, and statins. I also take about five prescription drugs. Overall, I feel good, which isn’t the case with all my 70-year-old friends.

Edit. It would be interesting if we had some sort of drug/health registry for everyone who chose to participate.


#26

Are you also taking a CoQ10 supplement as well? Statins have been known to cause a drop in natural production.


#27

How do you guys get bloodwork done - do you just ask your doctor? (Does it cost extra?)


#28

Yes and Yes. It all depends on what your insurance will cover. Simply ask your doctor for the specific blood work and viola.


#29

Ugh, don’t they have robots for this stuff yet?


#30

This is the service (and the test) that I use: Walk-In-Lab: Anti-Aging Baseline Blood and Urine Panel. There is also one for women.

It’s pretty simple—and doesn’t require a doctor’s visit. You pay for the test online, then you send the documents to a nearby LabCorp (you can do this through the Walk-In-Lab site). You make an appointment with LabCorp (or not, because they accept walk-ins), they take samples of your blood and urine, then you wait a day or two for an e-mail with the results.

I started doing this when I hit 30 and plan to continue from now on.


#31

I see, thanks for the info everyone!


#32

Insurance seems to covering less and less these days. It seems like clinics are popping up that will allow you to walk in to get blood testing. Also, here is a Accesa lab testing that allows you to order testing through Quest (another major national lab). It’s only a matter of time before we can just order a box to do all the testing at home…


#33

It cost me a bit shy of ten bucks for a full blood test. But I’m in Canuckistan.


#34

Following up again. I’ve been on Soylent Original for about two years now, and my serum testosterone has actually gone up a bit:

2015 (60% Soylent Powder)
939 ng/dL

2016 (70% Soylent Original)
927 ng/dL

2017 (80% Soylent Original)
974 ng/dL

Your mileage may vary, but this puts to rest any concerns I had about Soylent decreasing testosterone levels. I’m 32, for reference.

Also, I was finally able to get my Vitamin D levels where I wanted: 59.2 ng/mL with the reference interval being 30.0 - 100.0.

But it took a lot of supplemental Vitamin D3 to get there—a daily dose of 5,000 IU. That’s a relatively high amount (especially considering the amount of D2 in the Soylent I consume), so it’s worth your time to consider supplementing with Vitamin D. Especially if you wear sunscreen or don’t get a lot of direct sun exposure.