Whoa! Exp 3/16??? Both batches I’ve received (L5049 and G5078DA) had a 2/17 expiration. @Conor, can you explain what the prefix (L vs G vs C) mean? Also what do the suffixes DA or P02 mean? Are these different facilities? Different tweaks to the recipe?
@Conor addressed the different expiration dates over on reddit, “We are changing the dates to one year. We base the number off our calculations with regards to the ingredients and how they interact. But we decided it would be better to move on the side of caution with a lower shelf life.”
@Conor, is the bag filled with nitrogen to remove oxygen?
Ah… Ok. So now we have to read discourse AND reddit!!! I’d still like to know about the prefixes and suffixes…
I post on both, with discourse a user normally answers the question before I even read it. I do lurk…a lot!
The numbers are for logistical purposes, batch and lot codes.
We do remove the oxygen, however there is always going to be minor amounts. We do not us a nitrogen method of removal though.
It gets much worse the longer it sits.
Well the 2nd bag is no where near as bad as the first, it didn’t really separate sitting in the fridge but was still a bit gooey. Didn’t have the same large chunks of phlegm texture that the first one did.
The water ratio required seems a lot diff than the previous versions, that 30% extra water makes a big diff.
I’ll be picking up a stick blender sometime tomorrow to see if that resolves the main issue, I can see the texture approaching creamy if I do that.
Just hope I dont get another bag as bad as the first one if it was something about the mix/packing…
They have had issues with batches differing from each other for quite some time. I (and others) have even had bags where the colour was radically different. I wonder what’s going on. (search Discourse for “red soylent”, as an example)
Every pouch of 1.4 has been similarly slimy, however. (for me)
Ok I’ve given up on the overnight pitcher approach but on the good news side, I am now just making it as I need.
The previous versions I found quite bad when not doing the overnight approach but this is the opposite, it tastes really nice with just cold water and a small amount of mixing with a blender! If I had a blender ball bottle it’d mix fine with that as well but I don’t so blender it is for me.
So for anyone who has the slime issue, don’t quit just change your approach and make a meal at a time with cold water whenever you want, it’s not that much of an inconvenience. Hopefully in the future we can get some options that can work in both approaches well.
The sliminess comes from the Xanthan Gum they add which makes it so that the oat flower and such don’t all float to the bottom and suspends them evenly.
Thus we can assume they need better quality control as some bags get more Xanthan Gum than others. I’ve experienced this myself with soylent so I’m well aware. Thankfully it was only 1 pouch that was that way for me.
Only way to help this if you get a bag like that is to add more water to lessen the density of Xanthan Gum and thus less sliminess. Blending may help a little as well.
For those who haven’t experienced this, try buying Xanthan Gum and add it to soylent or a DIY soylent or just water and mix it. The more you add the more it tastes like you’re eating a jellyfish.
With 1.4 we switch to different production facilities.
The only differences that I’ve seen is how much separation occurs over night. With some batches there is only a small amount (1/2") and with others there is more (2"). But I’ve never noticed the ‘slimy’ texture people talk about. The taste is always the same to me.
I’m talking about within the same version(s).
Almost every bag that I prepared via the takeya pitcher overnight method had that very slimy, gluey texture. I found using a protein shaker and consuming it right after mixing solves this texture problem.
With 1.4 that should not be an issue. Have you noticed this in 1.4?
I’ve noticed variations in 1.4 from bag to bag. Some bags are less slimy than others. I’ve even had a couple where the slime wasn’t present at all.
Are you preparing it with the same water (amount, temp, etc.) and are you consuming the Soylent an exact amount of time after mixing? I ask because most people don’t, and it’s known that 1.4 will thicken with time after being mixed. Every bag of 1.4 has been identical for me (I’ve used about eleven bags so far), but there is clearly a different consistency between freshly mixed 1.4 and 1.4 that has sat in the refrigerator overnight. I haven’t calculated exactly how long the thickening process takes but it seems consistent. I’m not sure how temperature affects 1.4 specifically since I’ve always used chilled water from the refrigerator to mix it, so it’s been a pretty consistent temperature.
I’d be really interested to see a video of identically prepared 1.4 that is different either directly after mixing or after x hours in the refrigerator to see how it looks. Does the powder look or smell differently (or weigh more or less)? I could believe the product in the bags is variable once all other conditions are identical, but I haven’t seen any evidence myself or on the forums of this yet (since the odd colored 1.3 anyway).
I should note, I’ve found some people have issue with the smell so for those that do, don’t drink out of an open cup. Use a straw or drink out of a bottle with a small lid and that will mostly eliminate the smell effecting taste issue.
I’ve noticed that after awhile, say 8-12 hours there is a thick layer of… goop floating on the top of the pitcher and as I posted elsewhere I have to blend it on like MIX to get the texture back to mostly normal… not gagging but… not optimal.
I’ve also been paying attention and none of the (3 whole bags lol) bag i’ve opened had a discernible difference in air quantity.