Soylent for Chimpanzees


#1

It occurred to me today that Soylent may have an additional benefit! I work at a Chimpanzee Sanctuary (Save the Chimps). There are currently 257 chimps here rescued from labs. Sometimes, when ill, we have serious issues getting the chimps to EAT, but they will almost ALWAYS drink, and it just hit me that might be a good way to provide nuitrition via SOYLENT.

Would this be possible? I’d love to get some for our chief veterinarian. Perhaps we could even put some of the medications in it to provide healthy alternatives to sugar based drinks.


#2

It sounds awesome in theory, but if I had to guess I’d say chimpanzees have different nutritional needs than humans. Maybe make a chimpanzee-specific nutrient profile on diy.soylent.me?


#3

That’s true! But they aren’t so dissimilar that this would be a bad option, especially when emergency nutrition is an issue!


#4

For what it’s worth, my dachshunds love the icy dregs of my Soylent.

When I’m at home, I pour my soylent over ice. When I’m done, some of the ice cubes still have soylent coatings and there are still particulates at the bottom of the glass. I pour the ice cubes into a food bowl, put a splash of warm water in the glass and swirl it around to loosen the particulates, then pour that over the ice.

My dogs litteraly will body slam each other to keep the other awy from the bowl while they lap it up. The only other scraps they do that for are red meats.


#5

@JediChris1138 If you don’t mind paying for shipping, they’re taking the first 12 people that respond and selling them a week each at cost, if you want it really soon to try out.


#6

We may consider it! For veterinary care, the low sugar content of Soylent may actually be very useful. For those interested, you can see a little about the sanctuary at www.savethechimps.org. I’m looking out at the sanctuary now. It’s a really wonderful place!


#8

If you can swing it with the budget, I’m sure I’m not the only one who will be intently awaiting a report.
If so, I beg you to keep us all informed.


#9

I thought there was a nutrient breakdown of Soylent on the web site somewhere, might be worth trying to track that down. Worst case I could post a photo of the nutrition label.

Most other primates besides humans are herbivores, and either do not any meat or will not hunt for it like humans do (at least in caveman mode, not “shop at the grocery store” mode). That leads me to believe that other primates either require a different protein profile than we do, or they require a LOT of specific plant material to get their protein.

They also have smaller brains than us, so they will affect nutrition as well. The brain requires a lot of energy and some very specific nutrients due to its complexity.


#10

Chimpanzees are the significant exception in regards to meat eating:

http://firstlook.pnas.org/adult-male-chimps-regularly-eat-meat-unlike-other-chimps/

Primary research linked from within that article:
http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2013/03/21/1221991110.abstract
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/abstract/S0960-9822(07)00801-9


#11

These are both accurate! While they don’t consume quite the level of protein humans do generally, when they’re injured or sick, protein can be very helpful. Also, remember they have far greater muscle fiber density than people do. Chimpanzees are much stronger than their human counterparts!


#12

Who know, maybe you got to water it down a little and blend in some plants or fruits.


#13

That would actually be very effective. It’s certainly a good way to provide additional fruit nutrition, and they love fluids.


#14

Plus it might be cost effective to stretch the Soylent supply by that method.


#15

Wow! How much Soylent would you be ordering for the chimpanzees, @JediChris1138?

I’d intrigued by the prospect of designing a custom blend for chimpanzees… Is there a chimpanzee RDI available somewhere? :stuck_out_tongue:

I could probably come up with something a little cheaper than Soylent.


#16

We have given Soylent to a few dogs. One dog in particular would always follow me into the kitchen in anticipation of his little Soylent treat. They do love it and I think the only major concern would be about the vitamin and mineral content. Empirically, it seems that animals are really good at selecting for food that is good for them.


#17

I don’t know how much I’m going to order right away. I need to talk to our chief veterinarian and look into it. I can probably get you the RDI sometime after Tuesday.


#18

Thanks @JediChris1138 - feel free to contact me through my website too, if you prefer.


#19

Interesting read. As a software engineering specialist, not a veterinarian, I am obviously an armchair scientist. From my visits to the zoo and talking with zoologists I knew primates were in general herbivores, even if most of them (us) will eat meat at times. I was not aware about chimpanzees eating meat like that and hunting (with spears!)

@axcho good luck coming up with chimp Soylent: my understanding from talking with veterinarians is that while we know what to feed animals in captivity we do not have a ton of actual research, trials, studies, etc. to narrow it down quite like we do for us humans. It is a noble endeavor and I hope you succeed, but don’t get too frustrated if the information is not as complete.


#21

hahahahahah nice troll!


#23

Don’t think he/she is trolling, this person simply hates the very idea of Soylent… like if it’s very existence hurts his/her well being. “Oh someone is getting their calories and vitamins/minerals in liquid form, I think I am going to melt”. To people like that, food is a religion, and anyone who doesn’t believe in their religion is going to hell. There is no reasoning with a “religious” person like that, but one can try :slight_smile:

So @Rossmore ,what is it about Soylent specificly that makes you hate it so much that you decide to post on this forum with contentless posts? Do you believe Soylent is dangerous? Do you think it will cause harm to you if someone in another home is eating Soylent? What are your worries exactly? Do you understand that people who eat Soylent can still enjoy healthy food besides Soylent, and that many have reported actually enjoying food even more after starting on Soylent? Do you understand that for many, Soylent simply replaces the junk food and that not everyone is able for various reasons to eat a “whole food” healthy meal?

For your post about sick animals fasting, this is actually harmful to them as far as my understanding and they actually recover faster if they eat.