Soylent is Proudly PRO-GMO

#31

So with the stroke of your pen you erased any credibility you had and stepped out from the shadows as Monsanto’s little pet dog? I started to drink Soylent because of environmental concerns, simple as that. I was proud of that my main food source had not resulted in killing animals and because I thought Soylent’s philosophy was to thread carefully on this vulnerable planet. I admit I had sometimes thought “Where is all this soy protein coming from?” but never asked the question because I just find it unbelievable that you - what I thought were the good guys - would ally yourself with the most evil company on this planet. I now feel fooled and realize you are just as any greedy capitalistic company that would gladly put in any crap in your products as long as you can get rick. The issue is not only GMOs but the methods Monsanto is using to erase genetic diversity and make poor farmers dependent on buying their crops only from them. Do you understand how many farmers could be supported to survive, despite the Monsanto-Godzilla is trying to cut their lifeline, if you bought your soy from them instead of from Evil INC? I am very disappointed and I ask you to reconsider this. Do you really want Soylent to be associated with MONSANTO?

#32

If I buy a food made with a GMO does that make me in league with Monsanto? Heck no. Then why is it different for Soylent? It’s not.

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#33

I think you need to check in on which company calls the shots regarding GMO soy and other crops. And yes, when you buy GMO products over crops that exists naturally (not created in a lab) you are participating in reducing the genetic diversity and possibly jeopardizing your health. To compare GMOs created in labs with putting the biggest potatoes aside to use them as “seed potatoes” for the next year’s crop is to trivialize this big decision for humanity. The presence of mafioso-like companies like Monsanto is not making this decision easier. To use “FDA” as some kind of guarantee that GMOs are safe is ridiculous. FDA is a pushover for the meat lobby and Monsanto etc. For FDA big money talks, not reasonable caution.

#34

MentalNomad, I think you are quoting the whining of the American companies that are not able to sell things in Europe (and lets not discuss what the USA, as every country, does to sustain protectionism). Instead, my point is that I don’t think Americans understand how low the standards are in this country compared to others in regards to food. In many European countries you will have the phone number and address to the farmer who produced the meat or the vegetables. If you don’t like his/her product or want to ask them how it was produced you can actually make a phone call. USA is welcome to sell their products in Europe but they must like everyone else abide with the laws and put on labels for at least country of origin. The USA representatives think this is unfair - and probably it is - and therefore refuses to enter the European market under those premises. No one would buy American products once they see where it is from. I work in the medical field and the one of the jokes among European GPs was that if the patient want antibiotics send them to the grocery store to buy American meat. So again, I wouldn’t bow my head in awe over that the God almighty FDA has approved of GMOs. The standards here are just ridiculously low and its in your best interest to be careful.

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#35

You should have been more open from the beginning that you are not this health conscious company you portrayed yourself to be. You have fooled your customers. No health conscious company would use GMOs. You are now in the same company category as McDonalds and Lay’s. I have bought your products for years, thinking it was a healthy choice. It turns out that you are not. I want my money back and all my cells cleaned up from GMOs.

#36

Seriously you didn’t know Soylent was made with GMOs till today? They haven’t exactly been hiding that fact all this time.

Exactly how are GMOs unhealthy?

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#37

I am not a scientist doing research on GMOs and never said I did so I can’t answer your question as you seem to expect me to do - in a yes or a no manner. I point out what others already done that we need to be cautious about MGOs and if you care about your customers health more than McDonalds you should refrain from using it. We once thought DDT, atomic bombs, and fried food were safe. Can you point me in the direction of a company who has your original business idea but is having their customers health as a concern? I like your concept a lot until today and has been quite a marketer for you over the years, which I of course will not do anymore. Instead I must point out to people I care about that you are now pro-GMO (and proudly so).

#38

Well our goal is to move alway from Soy and onto Algae.

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#39

We have always been open. We even took out billboards last year that proclaimed that we are “Pro-GMO”.

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#40

So you think GMOs are unhealthy but you can’t or won’t explain why you think this?

If you think it’s because of the pesticides all crops even organic crops use pesticides.

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#41

I hope you realize you just alienized your biggest customer base, who drinks Soylent because we believed it was healthy and environmental friendly? You better have a backup plan to find new customers who couldn’t care less about these issues or you will pay dearly for this in regards to profits.

#42

[quote=“Regor, post:41, topic:25870, full:true”]
I hope you realize you just alienized your biggest customer base, who drinks Soylent because we believed it was healthy and environmental friendly? You better have a backup plan to find new customers who couldn’t care less about these issues or you will pay dearly for this in regards to profits.
[/quote]Soylent is healthy and environmentally friendly.

GMO’s are too. They give you more food per land, which leaves more land for nature.

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#43

Given how publicly they have touted their pro-GMO stance over the past couple years I suspect your a part of Rosa Labs smallest customer base. The pro-GMO stance is one factor that drew me to purchasing their product.

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#44

I have given you articles from the NEJM, I have shown you how many countries believe so, I think you have the evidence.

#45

The anti-GMO crowd are always entertaining, in their smug egotistical kind of way. Quite adorable. :upside_down:

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#46

You have indeed provided plenty of evidence that pesticides are bad for you. I never denied that. But you have yet to provide evidence that GMOs are bad for you.

https://www.ocf.berkeley.edu/~lhom/organictext.html

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#47

Well your choice folks - you can listen to a company that saves money and time using GMOs - explaining via very bias filtering in a blog OR you can look at what some of the best scientists (especially from Europe) are saying and peer reviewed journal articles (attached). Remember we are not saying that GMOS are all bad - we are saying that “proudly pro GMO” is an extreme view given the evidence and that we scientists barely understand genetics at this molecular level. So allowing this greed based capitalist (eg evil companys like Monsanto people) full force molecular edit anything, so they can make money first with little testing is ( as Europe and The World Health Org say) not a safe direction - and a precautionary principle given you are fooling with the 20,000 years of nutrition, evolution, seed production and agriculture is a better direction ( OR screw that 20,000 natural way lets take 10 years of greed based corporate research and just change everything - – its PROUDLY PRO GMO !!!) We are saying it is much more complex and two sided issue that many are being careful ( at least case by case) with GMO use - not Soylent, they say ( and you by support them - this is why I am stopping) it is the greatest thing in the world, (Europe, WHO, Salk Inst, Journal - they are fools). So anyway here are the other balanced science voices that might know more than the Soylent post:

How about the Professor and Laboratory Head, Cellular Neurobiology Laboratory, Salk Institute ( DAVE SCHUBERT - http://www.salk.edu/scientist/dave-schubert/) written in the NYtimes and here CNN:

or other NY Times articles on the subject:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/06/08/fears-not-facts-support-gmo-free-food/

OR fully peer reviewed science articles ( more technical read):

  • Impacts of genetically engineered crops on pesticide use in the U.S. – the first sixteen years - Environmental Sciences Europe
  • Risk assessment of genetically modified crops for nutrition
    and health, Nutrition Reviews Vol. 67(1):1–16 1
    GMO risk assessment is based on very little scientific evidence from
  • Multiple Toxins From GMOs Detected In Maternal and Fetal Blood
    Reproductive Toxicology - Volume 31, Issue 4, May 2011, Pages 528–533

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0890623811000566

  • DNA From Genetically Modified Crops Can Be Transferred Into Humans Who Eat Them ---- Journal Plos | one 2013
  • Study Links Genetically Modified Corn to Rat Tumors — Food and Chemical Toxicology, Vol50, Issue 11, 2012,

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691512005637
http://www.enveurope.com/content/26/1/14 (Environmental Sciences Europe)

  • Glyphosate in Round Up Linked To Birth Defects and more
    Chemical. Research. Toxicology 2010,


  • GMO feed pigs have severe stomach inflammation
    Journal: Organic Systems Syst 8.1 (2013): 38-54.

All these are full peer reviewed journals - please do not refute them using corporate lobby articles ( Monsanto pays for scores of them).
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Ok - I am done. I made my case. I will finish off my 3 boxes of Soylent v5 and call it a day. Thanks I lost weight and dealt with food in a more mature way thanks to this product. Good luck all - it was a great community to be involved with. I hope I got some of you to consider what Soylent is doing here ( extremely onesided). Again I believe in Soylents “world nutrition” mission, I believe that one day GMOs will make sense, and I also believe like Europe, WHO, Salk Inst and others that like in a few very complex fields, it is better to have real scientists study for many many years how a system works, to get an agreed upon knowledge base of it before we allow greedy multi-national corporations to play molecular mashups experiments on humans and the natural systems and slander good questioning scientists. If you are going to screw with the 20,000 yr agriculture system and change it radically in 10 yrs just for corporate greed, rather than giving it say 30 years of science mapping it out (just 20 more years) - well I for one do not want to support you with my money/time.

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#48

Now see. Was that so hard?

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#49

We trust the science and it has told us that GMO’s are safe, healthy, and environmentally friendly. We have never hid the pro-GMO stance and as a company we continue to grow. We must be doing something right.

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#50

Dipaola, I hear you. It is like talking into a wall, often an arrogant wall that downplay how difficult this decision really is. Also, they never address their link to Monsanto crops. Using GMOs is irresponsible and gambling with people’s health, but supporting Monsanto is deliberately unethical. Will their next blog be “We buy our soy from Monsanto and we are very proud of that too”? I am done with this company as well. They had their time. So sad greed overtook idealism.

Horsfield, your sarcastic comments look very arrogant and are probably not in your companies PR interest since customers read this page. But hey, how can anything hurt you more after this? Keep up your contemptuous barking and let the customers see who you have become! I am just waiting for the first t-shirt “Soylent is Pro-GMO (and proudly so)” - no libel or slander needed, just print the headline of the blog.